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Post  2030_17_hazrin_adzha on Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:14 am

well... im agree with hasmida..!! Very Happy

i think as long a person can manage their wealth and follow the syariah rules, its not wrong..
everyone wants the best in their life..its a lie if u dont want to get wealth right?? who dont want to be rich?? who dont want to have a luxurious life?? which can help us in a lot of aspects.. how can we perform hajj if we dont have enough money?? which hajj is one of the five pillars of Islam?? plus, how can we study if we dont have money to pay the fees?? which is knowledge is important..without knowledge, we cant make a better world, we cant bring back the victory of Islam.. but to pursue wealth, its need the power of Iman..if not, we would spend it in the wrong way.. my last words, it is not wrong to persue wealth, as long we can manage wealth in the right way.. Wink





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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_18_ainulzawarah on Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:09 pm

Assalamualaikum....

Wealth, a topic of great interest at the moment due to the recession and credit-crunch, is something that has troubled the children of Adam from the very beginning of creation. The question of how much wealth and property one owns, or how many of the luxuries and pleasures of the world one enjoys, have preoccupied the thoughts of each and everyone of us at one point or another in our lives. Wealth has been the cause of wars, the cause of suicide, the cause of marriages, and divorces, amongst many others. But what exactly is wealth?

in my opinion...

The most important thing for a believer to remember is that we were created for the sole purpose of worshipping the Lord of Creation alone, and this life is just a means of testing our obedience and faith in Him. Whether we are granted abundant riches or severe poverty we must always strive to obey the commands of Allah and to fulfill our duties towards Him. A believer’s honour lies in Islam. The Qur’an and the Sunnah should be our guides, not the desires of the society surrounding us, which places great value on wealth and materialism. We are merely travelers in this world and we will soon move on. What we will take with us from this world will be our good deeds. They will be our wealth on the Day of Judgment and they are what we will be judged on. He whose deeds are heavy on the scale, will have succeeded and gained something that all the wealth of this world cannot buy, the pleasure of his Lord and eternal paradise.Smile

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_syazwani.najman on Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:02 am

assalamualaikum...what i want to say here is, the best way to gain wealth is not conclude by determining to follow neither people's way nor not but use the way that we as muslim had faith and confident of islam. Islam is the way of life.No single muslim disagree with this statement.So that, included the way in gaining wealth...islam do not hinder any muslim to be as rich as bill gates or as powerful as barack obama, but it is a must to follow what islam has marked and its principles and do not get ourselves into the effort if the wealth mislead us to the wrong way.... Smile

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materialism-the superstiton of an age(article)

Post  2030_17_amiza on Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:40 pm

i found this very interesting article, but i had problem in understanding it, so... Laughing

some of the contents;
"Since materialism rejected the concepts of purpose and creation to the universe, it also denied the existence of a Creator. To be strictly accurate,materialism was a philosophy which had been formulated to reject Allah (God)."
by HARUN YAHYA

do read more about this;
http://www.articlesbase.com/religion-articles/materialism-the-superstition-of-an-age-359874.html


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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_Sajed on Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:35 am

2030_17_amiza wrote:i found this very interesting article, but i had problem in understanding it, so... Laughing

some of the contents;
"Since materialism rejected the concepts of purpose and creation to the universe, it also denied the existence of a Creator. To be strictly accurate,materialism was a philosophy which had been formulated to reject Allah (God)."
by HARUN YAHYA

do read more about this;
http://www.articlesbase.com/religion-articles/materialism-the-superstition-of-an-age-359874.html

Apparently, that article is about the materialism ideology, that states that only matter exists. Which is obviously kufr. I'm pretty sure that this thread is about the materialistic nature, which is the attachment of the heart to material things.

But I did notice one thing about that article. Those materialists still hold that the universe is eternal but common sense and modern science show that it is not possible. In order for something to be eternal, it has to be completely unaffected by time, allowing it to have no beginning and no end, since it would be in a constant state. But this universe is definitely changing with every second, and this is something that every single human being with the tiniest amount of intelligence can recognize. In fact, this universe is defined as the total sum of space and time, and even the "atheists" don't deny that. Basically, nothing in this physical world can be eternal and the source of all creation must therefore be something completely separate from this universe (which also means He can't have any partners, as He is only Being which is truly Eternal). Only the Islamic wordview is compatible with this concept.

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_18_ainulzawarah on Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:11 am

hahahaha...i dun understand bout it t0o, miza...the language is to0 high...

but i agree with syazwaninajman...
it's not wrong to gain wealth, but it must follow the way o f islam....Islam allows you to gain wealth as long as you do not oppress other people, and transgress the limits set by Allaah (The Most High). An example of this is making people pay back more money than they actually borrow, through usury or interest payments.
However, wealth cannnot benefit you when you die, as it only passes on to your family as inheritance. Such is the civility of modem society, that many people are even killed, just so that inheritance can be gained sooner rather then later...The true wealth is indeed with Allah in the next-life. As Allah says:
"Seeking the perishable goods of the worldly life. There are much more profits and booties with Allah"
(Surah An-Nisa 4:94)

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2_AOUIDAD on Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:37 am

salamalikom may ALLAH bless all of you
As Muslim the first thing to do when faced by anything in this life, is to direct our heart and brain to our religious teachings. Islam has neglected nothing in this life. So as a first question we can ask is it forbidden to be rich in Islam. Is it a sin to have much money and all facilities? The general and wide answer is no, it is not forbidden. As second question we can ask are there any conditions in this process of being rich? As a very short answer yes there are conditions, which are first take it from a HALAL way and second spend it into a HALAL way. if you want a detailed answer so you must go to Fiqh books every detail is there.
may ALLAH give us true knowledge


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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_18_fatin on Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:03 pm

Assalamualaikum w.b.t,
my opinion regarding this matter, whether or not should a Muslim pursue wealth as others do (in which if this 'others do' is referring to wealth for excessive luxurious living, duniawi matters, entertainment and so on), thus i disagree completely with pursuing wealth if its for the sake of these materialism. But if its for the better in things we do for the purpose we are created, such as in education, we need money to pay off what we learned, clothes, food, and so on, then it is appropriate to seek wealth, and then comes the topic of moderation, we seek wealth, but do not use it excessively in the entertainment and duniawi matters, use it excessively for deeds, to complete what Allah has made compulsory for us to complete if we are capable like hajj, sadaqah (not for showing off, but to help others). the wealth we earned we use it moderately for duniawi, enough for us to live in this world comfortably and help others. that's what i think. at least.. =D

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muslims should be rich

Post  2030_17_ahmadali on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:14 am

in my opinion ,I think that being rich is good thing,and we should all seek to be rich,being rich could be a Temptation but if we use it correctly it can prevent us from lots of sins and help us to be practiced muslims and help our ummah to be as it were in the first centuries of islam just like what uthman(رضي الله عنه)used to do,we should remember that most of the ten who were promised to get in paradise were so rich.being rich could be an important factor to be a better muslim.As stated in the hadeeth
(عن أبي هريرة رضي الله عنه قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: (المؤمن القوي خير وأحب إلى الله من المؤمن الضعيف، وفي كل خير.احرص على ما ينفعك، واستعن بالله، ولا تعجز. وإن أصابك شيء فلا تقل : لو أني فعلت كذا كان كذا وكذا ، ولكن قل : قدر الله ، وما شاء فعل . فإن لو تفتح عمل الشيطان).رواه مسلم.)
the strong believer is better than the week believer and for sure that the most important factor of strength is the money.and as narrates in the hadeeth that the poor companions went to the prophet muhammad and said to him that the rich companions get lots of(ثواب).we pray like them and fast like them but they have Surplus of money because of that they give charity and we can't,the prophet told them if you said(التسبيح والتحميد والتكبير) after every prayer you will get (أجر) no one will take as it except who said like you,and then the rich companions knew about it and they keep say the (التسبيح والتحميد والتكبير) and then the poor companions went to the prophet and said that the rich companions knew about the(التسبيح والتحميد والتكبير )and they kept say it!,teach us another thing,then the prophet said that is grace from Allah and he gives it to whom he wills.
and that hadeeth explain that being rich is an attribute that help you to be in a higher place in paradise.

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agree with ahmadali

Post  2030_17_aisha.tahir on Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:51 pm

The reason why i agree with what ahmadali say are because the following reason ;
1. Muslim should be rich in order to help other Muslims out there which are poor. Ex. paying zakat and sadaqah.
2. Muslim should be rich so that the Muslims country will not be far left behind and other country especially the western country will not look down at the muslims country.
3. Muslim should be rich to build up a lot of Mosque.
4. Muslim should be rich to give donation to the orphan.
5. Muslim should be rich so that he can perform the Hajj!!!!

Question : How can a Muslim make more Ibadat to Allah if he or she did not have money???

Very Happy Surprised Rolling Eyes lol!

Wallahualam.

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_Sajed on Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:29 am

2030_17_aisha.tahir wrote:The reason why i agree with what ahmadali say are because the following reason ;
1. Muslim should be rich in order to help other Muslims out there which are poor. Ex. paying zakat and sadaqah.
2. Muslim should be rich so that the Muslims country will not be far left behind and other country especially the western country will not look down at the muslims country.
3. Muslim should be rich to build up a lot of Mosque.
4. Muslim should be rich to give donation to the orphan.
5. Muslim should be rich so that he can perform the Hajj!!!!

Question : How can a Muslim make more Ibadat to Allah if he or she did not have money???

Very Happy Surprised Rolling Eyes lol!

Wallahualam.
Except the primary target here should not be the money itself. It should be Ibadat. They should be focussed on the goal of worshipping Allah. This also leads them to pursue wealth but it is not considered to be materialism in the slightest degree. Materialism is when the object of your desires are the materials of this world. Even if a Muslim intends to spend his wealth in those causes you mentioned (and obviously intends to earn it through halal methods), it is still completely wrong for him to make the money itself as his main goal.

In response to your second question, there are many ways to make Ibadat without having money. Praying more Nawafil prayers, fasting on Mondays/Thursdays, etc, and of course, doing whatever he/she is capable of doing to help the other people in any way.


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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_aisha.tahir on Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:37 pm

its true that without money also we can perform Ibadah to Allah..solat, sawm, etc doesnot need money..but what i mean is that, if Muslims have a lot of money, it is an advantage for them. They can do other kinds of Ibadah plus with solat n all that...Imagine if u do solat and sawm only..the richers do solat, sawm, sadaqqah, build a mosque..their rewards will be much more than yours. wallahualam.

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_AhmedAmirul on Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:17 pm

its true every one want to become rich n famous.Even for Muslims.
But,the way Muslims urge for wealth and respects should be different from other religion.

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_AhmedAmirul on Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:46 pm

hurm.what we can see today,not only the poor is materialistic but even the poor.think about it.

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_hazrin_adzha on Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:25 pm

u guys rite.. if a person have a lot of money, he can help other people to have a better life..which indirectly help them reduce their burden...flash back to the tsunami in acheh.. how can they live nowadays if they dont get help from others? which need the volunteers spend a lot of money to build the hiuses, repair the mosque, preparing food for them...

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_amiza on Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:36 am

salam,, Cool


2030_17_AhmedAmirul wrote:
hurm.what we can see today,not only the poor is materialistic but even the poor.think about it.


' not only the poor is materialistic but even the poor'
sorry,,
but i wonder, is it the problem with my eyes or ... Laughing

2030_17_hazrin_adzha wrote:
u guys rite.. if a person have a lot of money, he can help other people to have a better life..which indirectly help them reduce their burden...flash back to the tsunami in acheh.. how can they live nowadays if they dont get help from others? which need the volunteers spend a lot of money to build the hiuses, repair the mosque, preparing food for them...

agree.
but, not only rich people can donate. the poors also can do the same. the point is, whether we ikhlas or not.

"So whosoever does good equal to the weight of an atom (or a small ant), shall see it."
refer [Al-Zalzalah:7-8]

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_aisha.tahir on Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:30 am

Rich people have the advantage on the matters of donation...because they have a lot of money...however, the poor people also can give their donation in other scope such as sadaqqah, zikr, and other matters related to it..wallahualam Very Happy

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_syazwani.najman on Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:32 pm

you leave your heirs well off (or he said : prospreous) is better than to leave them (poor and) begging from people. He (the Holy Prophet) pointed this with his hands.: (sahih muslim)....
So, be rich is also quite important to muslim

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_Sajed on Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:34 pm

2030_17_syazwani.najman wrote: you leave your heirs well off (or he said : prospreous) is better than to leave them (poor and) begging from people. He (the Holy Prophet) pointed this with his hands.: (sahih muslim)....
So, be rich is also quite important to muslim
To not be rich definitely does not imply that you are so poor that you have to beg from others. Well-off/Prosperous ≠ Rich. If they have enough to live off by themselves, then that should sufficient. Of course, there's nothing wrong with leaving them more money, but it's not an absolute necessity.

Also, Umar ibn Abdul Aziz.

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_AhmedAmirul on Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:13 am

[quote="2030_17_amiza"]salam,, Cool


2030_17_AhmedAmirul wrote:
hurm.what we can see today,not only the poor is materialistic but even the poor.think about it.


' not only the poor is materialistic but even the poor'
sorry,,
but i wonder, is it the problem with my eyes or ... Laughing

HAHA.u got me.sorry.
what i meant was not only the poor,but even the RICH as well.

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Re: Muslims in Materialistic Age

Post  2030_17_amiza on Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:55 am

2030_17_AhmedAmirul wrote:

2030_17_amiza wrote:salam,, Cool


2030_17_AhmedAmirul wrote:
hurm.what we can see today,not only the poor is materialistic but even the poor.think about it.


' not only the poor is materialistic but even the poor'
sorry,,
but i wonder, is it the problem with my eyes or ... Laughing

HAHA.u got me.sorry.
what i meant was not only the poor,but even the RICH as well.

Laughing


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Rich people have the advantage on the matters of donation...because they have a lot of money...however, the poor people also can give their donation in other scope such as sadaqqah, zikr, and other matters related to it..wallahualam

agree. Smile

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